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 Post subject: Re: Migrating to SmartGWT
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:28 am 
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Hi,

Considering to switch from GWT-Ext to SmartGWT, I wonder if there exists a common model between this two technologies ?
I heard about UFacekit project which aims to propose a common interface for implementing GUI. The choice of the implementation (Swing, GWT, Eclipse...) is made in a configuration file. Unfortunately, only swing implementation is available right now.

Do you know if there exists another project of this kind, which could be a good option : no migration needed from GWT-Ext to SmartGWT, and reduction of the risk to choose the SmartGWT - risk because even if it seems powerfull and based on the 8 years old SmartClient, this GWT lib has not enough maturity for now.

What do you think about ?


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Antoine Larcher


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 Post subject: Re: Migrating to SmartGWT
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:14 pm 
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abhijeet.maharana wrote:
I downloaded it just now and both winrar and 7-zip extracted it fine. Maybe you got a broken download?

hucmuc wrote:
I can't unzip the rar file? How do I extract the contents?


Just had winzip. 7-zip worked fine. Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Migrating to SmartGWT
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:51 pm 
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sjivan wrote:
hucmuc wrote:
I find it pretty surprising and concerning that it took SmartClient a number of years to realize that the skin or themes are not visually right. Whereas the extjs look felt right from the start.

The standard response from SmartClient has always been is to wait for the next theme and then it falls flat. Hope, you have influence in this area.

I've shown the SmartGWT/SmartClient showcase to the people at work and the reaction has not been positive. I didn't have this problem with gwt-ext.

I do like the SmartGWT library and the interface.


I agree that the current skins don't live up to the high standard of the rest of the library in terms of API's and functionality. The users have spoken loud and clear regarding the skins and the SmartClient folks are treating this as high priority. I'm giving my feedback as well. In the mean time please continue evaluating SmartGWT knowing that the SmartClient folks are committed to creating high quality skins, even if it requires a little further polishing after the initial release based on user feedback. The key takeaway for me is that they are listening and responding to user feedback very promptly.

Sanjiv


The other thing that is bugging me is the integration. It seems to me that there should be a GwtProxyDataSource or some way to integrate seamlessly into the existing widgets that uses MY framework. I try to avoid any proprietary integration because I don't want to be dependent on that. My decision was vindicated due to the extjs fiasco.

The stock answer from SmartClient is to use the EE if you want seamless integration etc. But I can't justify 1K per developer in costs. Ideally, I want to create a DataSource that basically points to a server side function and returns a generic object that can be used by the widget.

You are right. The API and architecture is better than extjs. I know I will figure this out just like I did with my seamless integration with gwt-ext widgets. Just need the time.


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 Post subject: Re: Migrating to SmartGWT
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:04 pm 
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As mentioned here http://forums.smartclient.com/showpost. ... stcount=12 a small enhancement is required in SmartClient to facilitate users to make their own GWT-RPC calls. Users can then override transformRequest() of DataSource and issue their GWT-RPC call and wire in the results into the DataSource. I'm hoping this should be available to users in a nightly build next week. Users can override transformRequest() today as well to issue a GWT-RPC call but the contract for populating the results is not fully defined right now since the GWT-RPC call is asynchronous.

Please allow for a little time for these user enhancements to be incorporated. After all the current version, although rather feature complete, is just the first release.

Sanjiv


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 Post subject: Re: Migrating to SmartGWT
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:48 pm 
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sjivan wrote:
As mentioned here http://forums.smartclient.com/showpost. ... stcount=12 a small enhancement is required in SmartClient to facilitate users to make their own GWT-RPC calls. Users can then override transformRequest() of DataSource and issue their GWT-RPC call and wire in the results into the DataSource. I'm hoping this should be available to users in a nightly build next week. Users can override transformRequest() today as well to issue a GWT-RPC call but the contract for populating the results is not fully defined right now since the GWT-RPC call is asynchronous.

Please allow for a little time for these user enhancements to be incorporated. After all the current version, although rather feature complete, is just the first release.

Sanjiv


understood. can't wait!


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 Post subject: Re: Migrating to SmartGWT
PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:05 pm 
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I hope they improve their LnF. It just can't compete with GWT-Ext and it's going to be a 'no' from more than one manager...


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 Post subject: Re: Migrating to SmartGWT
PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:28 am 
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We were hoping to move to the GWT Google Visualization graphics library.

Will this be part of Smart GWT?

- Jerry


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 Post subject: Re: Migrating to SmartGWT
PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:11 pm 
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Hi guys,

A first design sample has now been posted on the SmartGWT Forum. Feedback is welcome.


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 Post subject: Re: Migrating to SmartGWT
PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:01 pm 
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ckendrick wrote:
Hi guys,

A first design sample has now been posted on the SmartGWT Forum. Feedback is welcome.


I think it looks very nice. How would one differentiate sortable columns from non-sortable?
Also it would be nice to see how table pagination control would look like...

Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: Migrating to SmartGWT
PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 4:11 am 
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Hi guys,

I remember that there was already a post with the link to the migration guide, but I still cannot find it anywhere anymore. Can somebody please post the link here?

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mspecht


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